Aug 03, 2009, 01:46 PM // 13:46
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#41
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Guild: Guardians of the Cosmos
Profession: R/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Theocrat
I support the BNP and find it humorous how uninformed some of you are. The BNP is the last bastion of hope for the United Kingdom, and should be applauded for their desire to protect the sovereign state.
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Sort of Like the Aryan Nation will save the USA.
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Aug 03, 2009, 02:05 PM // 14:05
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#42
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Plymouth, Uk
Guild: [TPoN]
Profession: A/P
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Lol given the right resources and outlets for campaign materials any racist party 'Could' gain mass support and gain favour..
Maybe even save a county from Negative colonization...
Give the AB/AN a tv channel or a widespread newspaper section and they would have 10x the members / supporters.
most people actually view 'Foreigners as the cause of theyre specific countrys problems.. theyre just too shy or afraid to say it aloud!
Markus
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Aug 03, 2009, 10:31 PM // 22:31
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#43
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]
Profession: A/
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This is a thread of idiocy.
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Aug 03, 2009, 11:09 PM // 23:09
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#44
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Furnace Stoker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkusParkus
It sounds to me that the OP doesnt actually live in the UK ..
or just wanted a argument with somebody...
You could 'bait, poke, provoke And belittle' Any political party member/ or supporter/human into an argument.
OP are you saying to ban muslim videos ??
Are you saying to ban labour partys videos?... if your saying to ban the BNPs videos And campaign work you will have to ban labours 'Love All Foreigners' PROPAGANDA.
Personally I totally agree with Bnp's political stance.. we all know they will never get into power because of all the liberal leftys around (OP)
Glad To See A Couple Other Posters In This Thread With Some Sense Anyways
Markus.
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I am asian minority living in the UK and have been against the BNP since earlier this year.
Why should I have to move out of the UK, or not be treated equally to anyone else living here? Labour do not spread any Propaganda that is hateful towards any ethnic race, and most muslims do not either, people here that post like you do, or claim to support the BNP obviously have no clue about the racial problems that minorities living in the UK or anywhere else can face at any time in their lives.
If you support the ideology of the BNP, then of course you also support the Idea of kicking all white people out of the USA and sending them back to Europe right? Same thing as what the BNP are wanting in the UK against non white people.
IMO a person needs to have serious issues with coloured people to have to vote for the BNP, I dont buy the whole 'Protest vote' crap, this doesnt give you a reason to vote for such a party, like you can try and vote for anyone else other than labour instead.
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Originally Posted by MarkusParkus
Lol given the right resources and outlets for campaign materials any racist party 'Could' gain mass support and gain favour..
Maybe even save a county from Negative colonization...
Give the AB/AN a tv channel or a widespread newspaper section and they would have 10x the members / supporters.
most people actually view 'Foreigners as the cause of theyre specific countrys problems.. theyre just too shy or afraid to say it aloud!
Markus
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Technically, White Americans are 'foreigners' in the USA too. Imagine an American National Party made up of native Americans wanting to kick caucasians and black people out of the USA, and you get what the BNP are in the UK.
And if people do think that foreigners are the cause of their countries problems, they just have a tiny brain full of poop.
Last edited by bhavv; Aug 03, 2009 at 11:16 PM // 23:16..
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Aug 04, 2009, 01:11 AM // 01:11
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#45
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Texas
Guild: [clap]
Profession: E/
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AHAHAH you said you were toughened up by the internet.
And you call people on the internet noobs, yet you lie about being black and muslim and all of that. You truly are an ignorant SOB and should be cast away from society.
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Aug 04, 2009, 01:40 AM // 01:40
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#46
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Theocrat
I support the BNP and find it humorous how uninformed some of you are. The BNP is the last bastion of hope for the United Kingdom, and should be applauded for their desire to protect the sovereign state.
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Do you or do you not hate minorities.
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Aug 04, 2009, 03:28 AM // 03:28
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#47
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Krytan Explorer
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Most anthropologists believe that race, in its most common interpretation, doesn't exist. Based on that fact alone, all arguments involving race and superiority are idiotic .
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Aug 04, 2009, 11:19 AM // 11:19
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#48
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mancland, British Empire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Rock
Black people yelling "racism!"
White people yelling "reverse racism!"
Chinese people yelling "sideways racism!"
And the Indians ain't yelling shit, 'cause they dead.
So everybody bitching about how bad their people got it: nobody got it worse than the American Indian. Everyone needs to calm the fcuk down.
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There .
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Aug 04, 2009, 02:05 PM // 14:05
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#49
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Re:tired
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
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The increasing popularity of the BNP is a symptom of social unrest. The pendulum swings both ways: The more our goverment panders to radicals or extremists, the more people you will get moving to vote for the BNP. If the government starts acting like it actually has some national pride, then it will reign in that swing a little bit. The BNP is effectively a social barometer.
You can't criticize the BNP, because to criticize the BNP is to criticize democracy. If there is a political party of that size with beliefs that extreme it represents a very real problem that needs to be recognized. You deal with the root problem and the BNP will fade away. Democracy does not work by sidelining and ignoring people whos views you disagree with.
I've lost all interest in the circus that is British politics. Not one party moves away from the pack, not one politician comes accross as anything but a blithering incompetent idiot.
Welcome to a country where a radical cleric can glorify the acts of terrorists, but it's illegal to criticize creationism. Liberal tolerance gone wild.
Where's my 'hope and change'?
(Were I to bother voting again it would probably be LibDem, though I'd still need a stiff drink or five first.)
Last edited by JR; Aug 04, 2009 at 02:13 PM // 14:13..
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Aug 04, 2009, 02:43 PM // 14:43
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#50
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LEET HAXXOR!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Random Arena
Profession: N/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
This is a thread of idiocy.
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Care to elaborate?
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Aug 04, 2009, 02:54 PM // 14:54
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#51
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Re:tired
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by English Warrior
Care to elaborate?
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Possibly due to the premise? 'Remarkably silly teenager doing his best to troll the clowns on Youtube by pretending to be black.'
Seems like the perfect grounding for an intelligent political debate on Guru, don't you think?
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Aug 04, 2009, 03:05 PM // 15:05
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#52
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: sheffield
Guild: Arutha's Gatekeepers
Profession: E/Me
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- At least twenty percent of the currently resident population were either born overseas or are descendants of foreign-born parents.
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- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;
- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;
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Both quotes from BNP policies on immigration.
Im white/asian, the BNP being projected as racist is very worrying, not everyone can read into the policies/wants to/has the access to it, to someone just switching on the tele it could seem like they have no future/worries about family and friends, that they will be deported immediately if they are of foreign descent, this adding to the economis 'crisis' and worries around money just adds up to alot of unwanted worry for many people.
My situation is a little simpler.
my mother is asian, she came to england with my father (who is white) after he fell in love with her on a holiday.
Yes, they would love to leave england when they retire and would benefit from the grant, but i would live my life feeling 'out of place' and rather pushed to 'go home'
I hope an 'exceptional case' is such as the one i mentioned above with my parents, as race should not be a boundry for love.
However it is unlikely that the BNP will come into power, so lets all stop worrying
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Aug 04, 2009, 04:31 PM // 16:31
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#53
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LEET HAXXOR!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Random Arena
Profession: N/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
Possibly due to the premise? 'Remarkably silly teenager doing his best to troll the clowns on Youtube by pretending to be black.'
Seems like the perfect grounding for an intelligent political debate on Guru, don't you think?
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Agreed.
Seems that the people who oppose them are just judging them from a stereotypical view without looking into the political basis of their party.
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Aug 04, 2009, 04:42 PM // 16:42
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#54
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Re:tired
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by English Warrior
Agreed.
Seems that the people who oppose them are just judging them from a stereotypical view without looking into the political basis of their party.
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There is often a decent amount of truth to stereotypes, and the BNP is no exception. It has it's fair share of neo-nazi skinhead douchebags, who are no less extremist than your average radical islamic youth.
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Aug 04, 2009, 04:58 PM // 16:58
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LEET HAXXOR!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Random Arena
Profession: N/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
There is often a decent amount of truth to stereotypes, and the BNP is no exception. It has it's fair share of neo-nazi skinhead douchebags, who are no less extremist than your average radical islamic youth.
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Also a decent amount of lies to stereotypes aswell, also there are parties that are american national parties and stuff there are also islamic parties however you dont hear of these because they dont get voted for.
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Aug 05, 2009, 08:46 AM // 08:46
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#56
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So Serious...
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Guild: Nerfs Are [WHAK]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by English Warrior
Agreed.
Seems that the people who oppose them are just judging them from a stereotypical view without looking into the political basis of their party.
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The BBC documentary quoted before was clearly a "fiction". Surely, the Internet knows better!
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Aug 05, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05
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#57
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Furnace Stoker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by English Warrior
Agreed.
Seems that the people who oppose them are just judging them from a stereotypical view without looking into the political basis of their party.
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Not really, we are judging them based on the horsemuck that comes out of its leader Nick griffin's mouth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0RFQhcfc3w&NR=1
See this video. Everything in the media is the fault of the Jews apparantly.
Also, here is the political basis of the party that people such as myself are opposed to, in case you missed it -
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The BNP is wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples...committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring...the overwhelmingly white makeup of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948.
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Also in this one, we see a BNP councillor advising a citien to fake a case of racism to the police, and to fake being severely stressed to his doctors to get anti depressants, with the advise to just flush them down the toilet but to support his racism claim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGmKh...eature=related
This is what the party gets judged on, nothing stereotypical.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
Possibly due to the premise? 'Remarkably silly teenager doing his best to troll the clowns on Youtube by pretending to be black.'
Seems like the perfect grounding for an intelligent political debate on Guru, don't you think?
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And PS, I am black, just not 'Black African'
My 'lying' about being black is not any different to the undercover reporter pretending to be a pensioner that recieved verbal harassment in the above video. This isnt lying, this is called being undercover. Lying is not always a bad thing, and can be used for many beneficial reasons such as undercover work.
Quote:
Originally Posted by English Warrior
american national parties.
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Wait, White people think that they are natives of America ????
EXCUSE ME .... BUT WWWHHHHHAAAAAATTTTTTT?????
Last edited by bhavv; Aug 05, 2009 at 01:20 PM // 13:20..
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Aug 05, 2009, 01:42 PM // 13:42
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#58
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Guild: Guardians of the Cosmos
Profession: R/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Wait, White people think that they are natives of America ????
EXCUSE ME .... BUT WWWHHHHHAAAAAATTTTTTT?????
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Of course they do, didn't the Native Americans come over on the Mayflower? /sarcasm
I hope Europe and Asia and Africa have enough room for all the non natives who should have go back to where we came from.
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Aug 05, 2009, 02:23 PM // 14:23
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#59
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Furnace Stoker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
Of course they do, didn't the Native Americans come over on the Mayflower? /sarcasm
I hope Europe and Asia and Africa have enough room for all the non natives who should have go back to where we came from.
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America would end up deserted, Europe would be overpopulated.
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Aug 06, 2009, 11:00 AM // 11:00
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#60
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LEET HAXXOR!
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Random Arena
Profession: N/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Wait, White people think that they are natives of America ????
EXCUSE ME .... BUT WWWHHHHHAAAAAATTTTTTT?????
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Didnt say they were white did i? I was just making a example the British National Party isnt the only one of its kind.
BTW i love the way ur way of backing up arguments is youtube biased videos that are fixed to make the BNP look bad, for example the persons name who posted that is called stopthebnp, and blaming the jews isnt a BNP thing its more of a neo-nazi thing different topic for a different day.
Last edited by English Warrior; Aug 06, 2009 at 11:03 AM // 11:03..
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